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Dave_Oblad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:38 pm wrote:Hi Ron,
Interesting. I think the first wheel was a Square. It was very bumpy to ride on with a cart, so the Science guys decided to remove a Bump by making it a Triangle. This was logical (1 less bump per rotation) but didn't really help much. Then, centuries later, some guy got the notion of going the other direction and add more bumps. Completely non-logical, but it worked. And Science was born.. if it makes no sense, it must be right. So now days we have a wheel with millions of tiny bumps, and it rolls very smoothly.
I like your part about driving a Stake through the uncooperative Deity, as this seems to be a norm for Religion.
Anyway..
In the real world, Trees are basically Round. Some guy decided to make a table from a slice and it rolled away, with the inventor chasing it down a hill. He discovered how easy it was to Roll it back home and the first wheel was invented. When he added a support for his table to elevate it off the ground for you feet to go under.. the first Uni-Cycle got invented. Then roads became a problem:
Best wishes,
Dave :^)
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BadgerJelly » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:52 pm wrote:Pottery
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Forest_Dump » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:34 am wrote:Some nteresting ideas here and, truth be told, off the top of my head, I am not sure what the best answer might be given the available evidence. But I can certainly rule out a few and narrow down some choices. Use of a wheel in any kind of transportation also requires some kind of path the roll the wheel along. That in turn also requires the ability to harness a considerable amount of effort to clear the path of obstacles like rocks and trees that would block the rolling of the wheel. Even more labour would be needed to clear the path of log rollers, of course. You would also need to consider evidence for either the domestication of draft animals like either horse or oxen and that would come with evidence from the bones of the animals that they had pulled heavy loads (yes it is out there in classical studies on the subject). Alternately, if you wish to hypothesize the labour was supplied by people, either as slaves or willingly, you just need to look at the evidence of large numbers of people livig together, being fed, led, etc. But of course, in the new world, there is evidence of the use of the wheel on toys even though it was never used on roads because they didn't exist as such.
But there is earlier evidence of the use of the wheel for other things. Wheel-thrown pottery is definitely one example. Kudos to BadgerJelly there. Wheels were also essential as spinning wheels in weaving with evidence of conplex weaving preserved either as spinning wheels or as complex cord impressions in pottery. Even older is evidence of flywheels used to drill with bow drills. Fairly simple rocks with holes and drilling through various kinds of rocks for amulets, beads (including shell beads, etc.), using chert and flint drills are eve older, perhaps back into the Pleistocene.
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BadgerJelly » October 12th, 2018, 7:30 am wrote:In the UK we learnt the truth about this via an advertisement:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e3WLhaIu5r4
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Braininvat » October 12th, 2018, 9:08 am wrote:I seem to recall archaeologists theorizing that the wheel evolved from moving heavy objects by rollling them on logs. A log is essentially a very fat wheel with minimal steering capacity. Pretty sure it wasn't in a beverage commercial. Heh.
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Q'uq'umatz » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:50 am wrote:It was more about what the wheel allowed to be created and to set on the axle. A wheel by itself might be an amusement but a vehicle (or wheel barrow) that moved along the surface instead of being dragged was the star.
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