NoShips » November 28th, 2016, 5:25 pm wrote:After we solve this, can we discuss how many lies there are?
Exactly!!
And what is your response? If there is a fixed finite set of truths, how many more nontruths exist?
NoShips » November 28th, 2016, 5:25 pm wrote:After we solve this, can we discuss how many lies there are?
BadgerJelly » November 29th, 2016, 2:07 am wrote:NoShips » November 29th, 2016, 6:25 am wrote:After we solve this, can we discuss how many lies there are?
Like a cake you needs eggs to make it. Once the cake is made the eggs are gone.
Truth is like a cake and the eggs are lies.
This is the Forest Trump view of the world "Life is like a cake ..."
Scott Mayers » November 29th, 2016, 4:12 pm wrote:NoShips » November 28th, 2016, 5:25 pm wrote:After we solve this, can we discuss how many lies there are?
Exactly!!
And what is your response? If there is a fixed finite set of truths, how many more nontruths exist?
NoShips » November 29th, 2016, 4:04 am wrote:Scott Mayers » November 29th, 2016, 4:12 pm wrote:NoShips » November 28th, 2016, 5:25 pm wrote:After we solve this, can we discuss how many lies there are?
Exactly!!
And what is your response? If there is a fixed finite set of truths, how many more nontruths exist?
Scott, you remind me of Popper and his valiant attempt to give an account of "truthlikeness", or what he called "verisimilitude". Are you familiar with it? (It's relevant to what you said above)
NoShips » November 29th, 2016, 4:18 am wrote:Here it is in a nutshell: Popeye, I mean Popper, would like to demonstrate that theories approach truth. A successor theory is supposed to have a greater "truth content" than its antecedent.
Now how would we show that?
This is where you come in and your insight above.
How many true predictions does, say, Newtonian mechanics (in conjunction with the usual auxiliaries) make? Ans: Infinity.
How many false predictions does, say, Newtonian mechanics (in conjunction with the usual auxiliaries) make? Ans: Infinity.
With me?
Edit: Hope I have Popper right. If not, corrections are welcome.
NoShips » November 29th, 2016, 4:33 am wrote:Yes, I think you're right about A.
Popper claims truth content increases. Lakatos says no in Hungarian.
It gets a little technical (and I get lost). In "The Rationality of Science" by NewtonSmith there is an analysis.
NoShips » November 29th, 2016, 5:07 am wrote:Oh dear. Hegel is terrifying. Just took a look. Erm, is there any way to summarize this, Scott?

Scott Mayers » November 10th, 2016, 11:26 pm wrote:As the title asks, how many 'truths' exist?
That is, we might notice that we cannot escape number when discussing anything in nature. So by asking how many 'truths', I'm asking to what can we say about things like Nothingness, versus, Somethingness, versus Everything?
If we speak of 'totatity', for instance, is it Absolutely Nothing? Did it arise out of absolute nothingness? Or is it Absolutely One thing? Is it just one OF many? Or is it Infinite?
Or, is it all of the above?
Scruffy Nerf Herder » November 30th, 2016, 3:58 am wrote:Scott Mayers » November 10th, 2016, 11:26 pm wrote:As the title asks, how many 'truths' exist?
That is, we might notice that we cannot escape number when discussing anything in nature. So by asking how many 'truths', I'm asking to what can we say about things like Nothingness, versus, Somethingness, versus Everything?
If we speak of 'totatity', for instance, is it Absolutely Nothing? Did it arise out of absolute nothingness? Or is it Absolutely One thing? Is it just one OF many? Or is it Infinite?
Or, is it all of the above?
If there are infinitely many things, than there are infinitely many useful paradigms for explanation. How many truths exist is simply a question of how many things can be predicated about.
Scott Mayers » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:26 am wrote:As the title asks, how many 'truths' exist?
That is, we might notice that we cannot escape number when discussing anything in nature. So by asking how many 'truths', I'm asking to what can we say about things like Nothingness, versus, Somethingness, versus Everything?
If we speak of 'totatity', for instance, is it Absolutely Nothing? Did it arise out of absolute nothingness? Or is it Absolutely One thing? Is it just one OF many? Or is it Infinite?
Or, is it all of the above?
Scott Mayers » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:26 pm wrote:As the title asks, how many 'truths' exist?
nameless » May 28th, 2017, 8:05 am wrote:It is a matter of Perspective whether you find something truthful, or not.
wolfhnd » June 8th, 2017, 2:22 am wrote:Where does this infinity of which you speak exist? The problem with abstractions is they are abstract.
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