God=mc2

[chaoticcomplexity]

If there is God, we do NOT NEED God.

If God laid the foundations of the universe, start up existence, designed the evolution of our species....we do NOT NEED God.

We are helpless if there is God, for how we act now, how an atheist act now, how a believer act now are within what happens in the universe and if there is God, God designed the universe. We are therefore under God's 'hands' or 'knowledge' since the universe is under God's 'will'.

If there is God, one does not have to need God, for that one is within God's 'control'.

However, what is 'control'? It's totally different from the control we know as humans. 'Control' in God's 'terms' can be extremely different to that of human terms. God's 'control' is within God's 'knowledge' and that 'knowledge' is above and beyond but includes what exists.

There are a number of ideas I would like to propose:

1. If there is God, then God must not exist nor non-exist nor God is infinity nor the universe. God belongs to its own 'category' only.

2. If there is God, the universe do not need God. The universe do not have to need God, for God is already there and their relationship is never 'broken', but 'contimuous'. The universe is like a shoot that 'grows' in the 'mind' of God. So the universe goes to "understand" God by being more aware than by proofs and evidences.

3. The approach to God is not of proof and evidences, but increased deep awareness and abstraction. For we are 'inside' God's 'mind', 'inside' the 'proof and evidence'. And we cannot have an observer perspective that 'big' literally.

4. 'What there is' is not equivalent nor identical to existence. Existence is not all there is.

5. Existence is a part of God's 'knowledge'.

6. God is above and beyond God's 'knowledge' and therefore above and beyond existence.

7. The limits of the universe is within the boundaries of our experience.

8. Existence is within the boundaries of our experience.

9. If there is God, then God does not belong to what God created.

10. God is above and beyond omnipotence, and omnipotence is not applicable to God but only to what exists or non-exist (God's 'knowledge').

[bigstu]

The universe is infinite therefore as finite beings we are less but?

Consciousness created the idea of god. Why?

Fear of the dark? maybe. Need to make sense of an infinite construct? Definitely!

It is not fear that drives us out from our caves to question, it is our hope. cheers Stu