What does modern Physics say about reality?

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Re: What does modern Physics say about reality?

Postby charon on April 1st, 2019, 1:56 pm 

But you don't go beyond the limits. Has reality any limit?
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Re: What does modern Physics say about reality?

Postby hyksos on April 2nd, 2019, 4:55 pm 

But, and it's a huge but, are we content with partial understanding? Or do we really want to know reality? Because that may not be possible. Not because knowledge is always incomplete but because some things aren't knowable in that sense; they can't be quantified, measured, labelled, and put in a box.

But to those who have seen what is reality there's no doubt. But to those who may well have encyclopaedic knowledge there will always be doubt, which is ignorance. It's up to us.

Incidentally, we can do both so there's no despair in this. The person who has understood the whole can still investigate the partial. That's another reason why it's important not to just depend on science for one's understanding.

Are "contentment" and "despair" what is at stake here? These are emotional states.

Where is the logical guarantee that science is supposed to tell us about the nature of reality?
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Re: What does modern Physics say about reality?

Postby socrat44 on April 2nd, 2019, 10:48 pm 

hyksos » April 2nd, 2019, 4:55 pm wrote:

Where is the logical guarantee that science is supposed to
tell us about the nature of reality?


Guarantee ?
Guarantee Mr. hyksos you can find in the global Flat Earth Society,

https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_Freq ... _Questions
https://www.livescience.com/62454-flat- ... ffect.html
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/ by the way, the universe started from volume-zero (it means - flat) singularity,
then after the big-bang all its bits must be flat too as a parts of the
whole singular flat-point /
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Re: What does modern Physics say about reality?

Postby charon on April 2nd, 2019, 11:44 pm 

Where is the logical guarantee that science is supposed to tell us about the nature of reality?


There's no guarantee about anything, is there? Except death, maybe :-)
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Re: What does modern Physics say about reality?

Postby DragonFly on April 4th, 2020, 5:34 pm 

hyksos » March 31st, 2019, 2:01 pm wrote:[*] Does Wave Function Collapse actually objectively occur? Why doesn't it appear in any of the equations of the formalism of modern physics?


In a recent 'New Scientist' article, physicists are suggesting and pursuing the idea that there is no instant kind of collapse at all but that there is instead a smooth accumulation of back actions from the environment:

How a new twist on quantum theory could solve its biggest mystery
The "wave function collapse" transforms vague clouds of quantum possibilities into the physical reality we know – but no one knows how. New experiments are finally revealing reality in the making
PHYSICS
-- 25 March 2020
By Philip Ball

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